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Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:06 pm

I guess this is a bit of a feeler/good to know. Wondering if anyone has a gooseneck trailer, 20' minimum and rated at 5k or larger, that they would be willing to lend out.

I'm eyeballing a 78 F250 Supercab long bed in Idaho and I don't quite have the confidence in my 20' bumper pull to handle the task.

Because I know there will be questions...
1. Buy 73-79 Supercab long bed
2. Sell '03 F250
3. Install 7.3 Powerstroke in 73-79 F250
4. Drive and smile

Of course, at the rate I accomplish things, this will all be complete exactly one day before the apocalypse.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby Kinder » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:16 pm

So one day of driving & smiling, that's worth it!
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby Justin » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:22 pm

akaFrankCastle wrote:Of course, at the rate I accomplish things, this will all be complete exactly one day before the apocalypse.


...and a year from now you'll have 4 of them.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:48 pm

Justin wrote:...and a year from now you'll have 4 of them.


Maybe. But I'll be sure at least one of them is on the road. ;)
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby Viperwolf1 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:52 pm

You're looking at it all wrong. Do it roadkill style. Drive the '03 up, pull the engine and swap it into the '78, drive the '78 back.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:01 pm

Viperwolf1 wrote:You're looking at it all wrong. Do it roadkill style. Drive the '03 up, pull the engine and swap it into the '78, drive the '78 back.


Dude, that would be a seriously fun endeavor. However, I don't think I could make it back to work in time. That would be pretty sick though.

The truck I'm eyeballing is a 460/C6/205 combo with a bad trans. Would be fun to tear the C6 down, rebuild it, and drive it by the guy's place a few hours after buying it.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby Moab Mike » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:56 pm

Your truck and trailer would have no problems!
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:15 pm

My hitch is rated at 5k. My trailer weighs 3k. Curb weight of this bad boy is somewhere between 4500-6k, depending on who you ask.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby ZOSO » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:03 am

Get a Weight distribution/sway control hitch and go get it done.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby sykanr0ng » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:38 am

ZOSO wrote:Get a Weight distribution/sway control hitch and go get it done.


But would he get his money back on the hitch?

He will use it once then sell the truck.

Or will it fit the older truck?
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20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby landshark » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:47 am

Find another trans and swap it there. Drive it home. I have a decent trans jack you can borrow
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby Kinder » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:57 am

Flat tow it? Your SD outweighs it by enough.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:43 am

I know you guys are trying to help...but this is likely a problem that doesn't need a solution.

1) A weight distribution hitch is a great idea. For a one time use, not so much. I'm already looking at $600 in fuel to make the 2300 mile journey to pick this thing up, not to mention 32 hours of driving accoring to the Googs. Add on to that the installation and wait time for said hitch. Yes, it will fit an older truck as the set up is designed from the hitch back to the trailer. However, I am not anticipating needing to pull this size of load again anytime soon. And when/if that occurs, I hope to have my hitch situation rectified on the trailer end of things.

2) As tempting as it is to swap in a new trans and drive it home, I do not plan to keep the current drivetrain in it for long. So, buying ANOTHER trans that I will have/need to sell down the road isn't cool. Plus, 32 hour round trip now gets longer with the R&R time for said transmission. Also, I do not know how long this truck has been off the road, so driving it 1100+ miles back to Colorado from Idaho doesn't sound that fun when you have a job to be at on Monday.

3) Flat towing is another option. Not really looking to spend money on a tow bar. Not really looking to screw up a decent stock bumper to install said tow bar. Not looking to have said tow bar around the garage tripping me up after I get home.

In all honesty, there's only a 50%, at best, chance that this will happen. As I said in the original post though, it would be nice to know that a goosey is available should I need it in the future. So, if one isn't available now, it just gives me an excuse to not be disappointed at not being able to do this now versus later.

Now, if T.O. happened to leave my yard, options would certainly open up immensely with regard to this. But, I still don't have it where I want it before it goes up for sale.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby Dirtheadz » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:21 am

How about getting a shipping quote from a transporter?
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20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:25 am

Dirtheadz wrote:How about getting a shipping quote from a transporter?


$500+/-

Overall length and not driving pushes it towards the + side of the equation.

I'm not a fan of sight unseen buys though. Too many surprises.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby Mr. Lav » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:31 am

Hey Zack give me a call or pm me
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:07 pm

Sent you a PM Alex.

For the masses: As long as we're taking this train all over the neighborhood, what auto trans would YOU run behind a 12V Cummins?
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:41 pm

Found a trailer. :)

Here's the truck.

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And I might have already found a buyer for the Super Duty. Which means a) I've got an awesome truck, b) I've severely under priced it, or c) I found a very uneducated buyer. No idea which it might be.
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20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby Kinder » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:43 pm

akaFrankCastle wrote:Sent you a PM Alex.

For the masses: As long as we're taking this train all over the neighborhood, what auto trans would YOU run behind a 12V Cummins?


What ever OD trans that dodge used. I'm sure AA makes an adapter so a Ford pattern 31 spline xfer case will bolt up to it.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:11 pm

kinder wrote:
akaFrankCastle wrote:Sent you a PM Alex.

For the masses: As long as we're taking this train all over the neighborhood, what auto trans would YOU run behind a 12V Cummins?


What ever OD trans that dodge used. I'm sure AA makes an adapter so a Ford pattern 31 spline xfer case will bolt up to it.


I was thinking 5R110 or 4R100. Hmm.

This truck is probably not going to happen now. Guy says its full of rust.
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby Jesus_man » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:49 am

You've got a family, start looking for that needle in the haystack crew cab...

And as much as I hate to say it, perhaps a 6BT would be an easier swap??
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Re: 20'+ gooseneck to borrow?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:44 am

Jesus_man wrote:You've got a family, start looking for that needle in the haystack crew cab...

And as much as I hate to say it, perhaps a 6BT would be an easier swap??


Frau Castle has never ridden in my Super Duty. Not once. So, the Super Cab is what I want. My plan is to put buckets up front and a bucket in the back, situation between the two fronts. Still need to confirm it will squeeze in there.

And, I want a long bed. I'm tired of not having enough bed space. So, want to talk about rare, try finding a crew cab long bed.

6BT is already on my mind. As well as DT308. And 6V53. And even 6.0.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:02 am

Thought I would go ahead and get this out of the classifieds.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby mickphatmac » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:02 am

Here's a gas engine you can get locally, (Greeley) drive home, then tear it apart???

http://fortcollins.craigslist.org/cto/4968559177.html

To new for you?
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby Jesus_man » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:05 am

mickphatmac wrote:To new for you?


By ~ 20 years!!! I don't mind the OBS style, but you can't beat the styling of the generation he's after IMO!
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby mickphatmac » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:07 am

"INJECTOR TIP BROKE OFF TODAY. TAKING OFFERS. RUNS BUT VERY POOR"

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby JGZ » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:10 am

There's a red one running around up here in Lakewood that's done up just the way your talking about.That thing is badass.I'll try to get a pick next time I see it.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby mickphatmac » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:11 am

Ahhh...'73-79....Gotcha!
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby Jesus_man » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:46 am

Getting warmer!!
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