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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:31 am

I've seen the last one. Too complete for my tastes.

I'm looking for something in the sub-2k arena. Engine is immaterial as is the transmission. Axles are somewhat immaterial. If I go 7.3, I'll use a donor truck's D60/10.5 with rear disks and speed sensors. If I go 12V Cummins or similar, I will likely keep the stock axles for a bit.

Basic criteria is decent cab, matching VIN on cab and frame, TITLE, long bed frame. Original paint and a decent bed would be nice. Also, would like a camper special bed with the tool box built in.

The Idaho truck is off the table. The body is absolutely trashed with rust. And there are title issues (body swap, original VIN tag not saved). And the guy selling is not the titled owner (selling for "customer" who didn't like quote for repairs).
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:20 pm

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:22 pm

1978 Ford Supercab Ranger XLT F250 4x4 - $3250

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:24 pm

1974 Ford F250 Ranger SuperCab - $5000

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:26 pm

Maybe get some pics, its cheap!

75 f250 supercab ranger - $1500 (Tijeras)

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:28 pm

This one looks really nice and has the built in tool box. However looks like the picture is from 5 years ago...

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:34 pm

I like this one...

1975 Ford F-150 - $4300

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:36 pm

#1: 2wd
#2: I see a high rust to price ratio.
#3: 2wd AND more than I want to spend
#4: 73-77.5 frames are more narrow than later frames making the 7.3 swap a larger pain in the ass.
#5: F150
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:37 pm

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:38 pm

Is this my payback for all of the submission to the "unique daily driver" thread?
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:46 pm

akaFrankCastle wrote:#1: 2wd
#2: I see a high rust to price ratio.
#3: 2wd AND more than I want to spend
#4: 73-77.5 frames are more narrow than later frames making the 7.3 swap a larger pain in the ass.
#5: F150


missed the 4x4 thing.. can you tell the power went out at work and iam home? ;)

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:11 pm

It's an F150. I'd prefer F250-350. I do believe there is a frame difference.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby sykanr0ng » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:39 pm

As far as I know the front frame width is the same in all years of the dentside Ford.
It was the width of the back of the frame that changed with the highboy F250 being the last hold-out until mid 1977 model year.
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http://www.fordification.net/
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:24 pm

sykanr0ng wrote:As far as I know the front frame width is the same in all years of the dentside Ford.
It was the width of the back of the frame that changed with the highboy F250 being the last hold-out until mid 1977 model year.
A good source of info:

http://www.fordification.net/


The one (I can't believe I've only been able to find one single, complete build) build I've seen featuring the 7.3 recommended the later frame. I do recall now, from my previous foray into the world of dent sides and your reminding me, that there was a narrow section on one of the frames.

I usually consume my knowledge from FTE. However, their recent site issues and increase in advertising has got me looking for alternatives and cached versions of threads. I'll check Fordification out. Thanks.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby sykanr0ng » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:07 am

Here is a chart of frame widths and wheel bases for some of the F series trucks, covers 1960-1979, (accuracy?):
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:40 am

I will be more diligent and detail oriented in my search.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:03 am

I appreciate that.

What sucks is I like the subtle body styling differences in the 73-77 trucks but would prefer the rolling chassis from a 77.5-79. The extended cabs were only 2WD F100-150 in 73-77.5. Also, because diesel has the larger spout I'm almost completely stuck with a 77.5-79 bed, in order to accommodate the installation of the larger fill necks without incurring body work.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:26 pm

these things are hard to find.. and the ones that are found are asking quite a bit for crap.

I know... short bed pfft

'79 Ford F250 Crew Cab 4x4 $5000 obo

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:34 pm

a little rust from the looks...

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:52 pm

Seen the STL one last week. Knowing MDOT's history of salt use, I'm sure that thing is just a shell.

About 4 years ago I found a CCSB in Pueblo for 1200. It was in great shape and RAN. Called the guy, set up a time, grabbed my buddy's trailer and headed down. Made a follow up call just to be sure and the seller told me a guy had just drove it off.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby sykanr0ng » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:55 pm

Last year these trucks were all over now they have vanished shrug

Not a SuperCab but '74 F250 4x4 7.3 diesel and auto come with it (not installed):

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/4971455365.html
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby landshark » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:59 pm

can't tell if this is a 4x4 or not...

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:15 pm

2WD. You can just barely see the rear mounted PS gear box in the last picture.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby Jesus_man » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:34 am

The one in Las Cruces isn't bad. That doesn't appear to be a "short bed" in today's terms...
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby TOOLMAN » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:29 am

I concur. That crew cab in Las Cruces is sweet. Plus, super hard to find those!
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Fri May 01, 2015 8:20 pm

Found a cab today at the salvage yard. Has been repainted once. Didn't see any rust on it at all. Original vinyl floor liner and back seat still in it. Just might have to go back and grab it for a later date.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby sykanr0ng » Fri May 01, 2015 9:57 pm

akaFrankCastle wrote:Found a cab today at the salvage yard. Has been repainted once. Didn't see any rust on it at all. Original vinyl floor liner and back seat still in it. Just might have to go back and grab it for a later date.


You must be luckier than I am, if I see something like that and don't grab it, it's gone when I go back.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sat May 02, 2015 8:15 pm

Wish I knew someone close to here who could check this one out for me. icon biggin

http://goldcountry.craigslist.org/cto/5005576430.html

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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby Viperwolf1 » Sat May 02, 2015 9:45 pm

Let me know if you decide it's worth checking out. It's about 1 1/2 hrs from me.
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Re: Now: The Old School Super Duty

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sat May 02, 2015 10:14 pm

Viperwolf1 wrote:Let me know if you decide it's worth checking out. It's about 1 1/2 hrs from me.


Waiting to hear back from the seller. If things sound good on the phone, I'll let you know.
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