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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:47 am

Thanks for the complements, I'm trying to improve my technique and was REALLY concentrating on making the welds correct. I hope pretty equals strong!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Justin » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:58 am

We need to do a welding tech day. That looks great!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:34 pm

Can you guess the change in this setup? And no it's not the addition of gaskets and if you had X-ray eyes you'd see the new intermediate shaft installed, not that either. The only person who can't play is brianut.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:41 pm

Also finished a major step today.... Motor mounts! They need to have the edges smoothed and I'm adding a section that'll wrap over the top of the frame, but the motor is actually mounted.

I'll shoot some close ups tomorrow morning and also try to finish 2 cross members as well.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby crawlercreations » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:04 pm

kinder wrote:Can you guess the change in this setup? And no it's not the addition of gaskets and if you had X-ray eyes you'd see the new intermediate shaft installed, not that either. The only person who can't play is brianut.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:23 pm

crawlercreations wrote:
Doubler?


Nope, more subtle. If you look back to a previous post you'll see a picture that'll help.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Gunnibronco » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:03 pm

Did you find a stronger ZF, its a different ribbing pattern on this trans. Plus its a lot cleaner.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:55 pm

Gunnibronco wrote:Did you find a stronger ZF, its a different ribbing pattern on this trans. Plus its a lot cleaner.


We have a winner, that didn't take long. It's the later model with a higher torque rating, been working on the deal for a couple of months and it finally happened just in time for me to get the drivetrain in.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Gunnibronco » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:02 pm

Nice find. Pretty rare with the small block bell housing. Now you'll have to buy another Bronco to put your extra ZF into.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby landshark » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:06 am

kinder wrote:
Gunnibronco wrote:Did you find a stronger ZF, its a different ribbing pattern on this trans. Plus its a lot cleaner.


We have a winner, that didn't take long. It's the later model with a higher torque rating, been working on the deal for a couple of months and it finally happened just in time for me to get the drivetrain in.


i was going to say.. seemed allot cleaner :) nice score
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:31 am

Gunnibronco wrote:Nice find. Pretty rare with the small block bell housing. Now you'll have to buy another Bronco to put your extra ZF into.


The extra is gone, part of the deal, but I'm keeping my eyes open in the yards for another one.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:33 am

Cleanliness does count I guess, it came out of a farm truck and had over 3" of soil caked on it. It didn't have any leaks & I was able to start the truck and run it through the gears before pulling it.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:54 pm

Put in some cross members last night, hate them. Picked up new steel today for round 2.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:11 pm

Good fab day today, yanked the old cross members & put them in the scrap pile. Built two new ones out of 1x3x11ga and they turned out just right.

Trans mount runs high to the top of the frame & reuses the original bronco mounts to clear the front driveshaft & exhaust by going above them.

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Transfer mount runs low and clears the front driveshaft & exhaust by going below them.

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Here is a shot of them installed.

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Also mocked up the intercooler.

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And roughed in one set of new body mounts, these sit on the extension area. I still need to move the original set fwd and add another set for when I flip the body section that will contain my quarter doors.

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And finally a shot showing what the belly clearance is going to be.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Lobobronco » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:14 pm

Well done and looks great! So...I would assume you are now the master at making "make shift" jigs!

Super cool!

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:37 am

Very nice work. What purpose will this rig serve? I'm just wondering if you should try to add bolt-on stiffeners between your two mounts if you are going to crawl this rig??
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:38 am

Matt, if you mean an angle finder, vice & sharpie is a jig then yes I'm getting very good.

JD, I plan on wheeling it just the same as before. Are you saying to brace between the frame rails (as in additional cross members) or between the the new cross members to tie them together?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:50 am

Tie the new cross members together. That might keep them from collapsing should one get hung up. How far below the frame does the lowest one hang?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Justin » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:21 am

I'd be tempted to integrate a skid plate into any bracing to help keep them from getting hung up in the first place.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:39 pm

JD, gotcha, the xfer cross member is the lowest, hangs down 4" below frame. Not bad really, my radius arm brackets hang down 3".

Justin, we are thinking alike, as soon as JD posted I was thinking skid plate. I'll need 2 get creative on the bracing & attachment points. May need 2 wait for phase 2.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:03 am

Did some clean up work yesterday, finished the motor mounts, trimmed a few pieces that were a little close and notched the frame for the starter. Chris came by last night so we could add some tabs to his core support for a couple of pusher fans and he helped me set the drivetrain in for what should be the last time, I think I've pulled it out and put it in at least a dozen times during this part of the build.

Factory motor mount next to the one I built, the motor was in a Chevy setup so it had the lean, gone now.

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Starter notch.

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Motor mounts finished.

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Xfer case notch.

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Time to start running fluid lines & electrical, then the next big step coming up this week is to cut my '68 body in half and get it mounted.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:24 am

Looks great Kirk !
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby plumbdoctor » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:19 pm

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Justin » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:31 pm

At the rate you're going, you'll be ready to wheel tomorrow morning. We'll be at the Dumont Starbuck's at 9, see you there!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Entourage » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:34 am

Love watching this thread - great pics and tons of details. Keep up the great work!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:05 pm

Huge milestone this afternoon. The Black Smoke Donkey is Rollin' Coal! At least that's what the cool kids say.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Colorado75bronc » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:31 pm

Where's the sound?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Gunnibronco » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:35 pm

I can't even get a dash built and he's firing up a diesel Bronco. Damn nice work.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:13 pm

Corey, I've got sound on my end, I can send you a copy if you want.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby hockeydad4-22 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:08 pm

Dude! That is so cool!
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