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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:34 am

Git-r-dun!
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby Kinder » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:16 am

Nothing like a deadline to put your rear in gear.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby Gunnibronco » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:30 am

Good luck with the title process.

Is it worth the rush to do it in Colorado? Is the MO process more difficult?
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby landshark » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:57 am

i was wondering about titling, so if its not running and driving I will not be able to switch the title over? I can wait but was thinking of getting the 72 in my name.. haven't done any research - lazy i know
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:24 am

Gunnibronco wrote:Good luck with the title process.

Is it worth the rush to do it in Colorado? Is the MO process more difficult?


MO has a higher likelihood of winding up with a salvage or state assigned VIN.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:25 am

landshark wrote:i was wondering about titling, so if its not running and driving I will not be able to switch the title over? I can wait but was thinking of getting the 72 in my name.. haven't done any research - lazy i know


If you have a title, you're good to switch over a non-op vehicle. In fact, it's better that you do. The longer you wait the steeper the penalty.

The issue with this truck is I do not have a title.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby Gunnibronco » Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:09 pm

landshark wrote:i was wondering about titling, so if its not running and driving I will not be able to switch the title over? I can wait but was thinking of getting the 72 in my name.. haven't done any research - lazy i know



IF you have a clean title, you can transfer it over, regardless of running/driving status.

IF you don't have a clean title, you can apply for a VIN inspection & a new title. If the truck isn't running, you can apply for a "Rebuilder" title. When the truck is running, it will be reinspected & the "Rebuilder" title will be changed to a clean, normal title. You can't get plates & registration on a "Rebuilder" title.

I *think* you can skip the rebuilder title & just apply for a normal title if the truck is running/driving, but lacks a title. But I've never looked into that process.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:46 pm

Gunnibronco wrote:
I *think* you can skip the rebuilder title & just apply for a normal title if the truck is running/driving, but lacks a title. But I've never looked into that process.


I believe the better option for that situation would be a rebuilder. Easier to explain why you have a non-op vehicle that you are trying to restore and put back on the road than a running, driving vehicle.

Although if it is as simple as a bond, bill of sale and inspection, applying for normal title would be easier.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby landshark » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:43 am

Ok I have the title and its signed by the owner who sold it to my buddy. The date on the title is 2005 I think. I guess I will be paying some fees to get this thing titled in my name. The seller looked to be elderly and he filled in the mileage as the date. Hopefully can make this work as I don't think the guy is still around.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby Kinder » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:26 pm

The max is $100 dollars in late fees + back taxes, so not too much.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:12 pm

Well, we're already off to a bad start. Tonight I finished putting the builder 351 on the stand so I could do a quick check of it and figured out where it needed attention before reassembly. Turns out cylinder #3 had a ridge line of rust around halfway through the stroke. After some scrubbing and light scraping it's turning over by hand easily and the bore feels mostly smooth. So, I'm going to put it back together and see what sticks to the wall. It only has to RUN, not run well. That being said, I'll be prepared to pull my roller block as a replacement of necessary.

Also, an update on my already to tight timeline. The buyers requested the closing be moved to 3 days earlier. So, now the movers are likely coming a week earlier.

This project might be moving to the auto craft shop on Fort Carson before it even gets to my house.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:36 am

I'm gonna have my hands full with this thing. Yesterday I decided to take a few more pictures.

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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.

The Terrible One
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby Gunnibronco » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:31 am

You have a lot of things to 'undo' to bring it back to stock.

I'm guessing you saw that one sold for $98k at a Mecum auction.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:13 am

Gunnibronco wrote:You have a lot of things to 'undo' to bring it back to stock.

I'm guessing you saw that one sold for $98k at a Mecum auction.


I figure the first day it is back here I will be doing nothing but cutting and pulling PO wiring. But yeah, back to original will be a long, long journey. I think I'll work on making it roadworthy first, then tear into the grey one, and make this one the longer term project.

I did. It certainly set a precedent as far as the Stroppe's go.
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The Terrible One
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:40 pm

Did some things and stuff to the Free Fitty One.

Are lifters supposed to be concave?
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This came out from the #3 cylinder intake valve. To say the cam is wiped would be generous. And out of the four spare parts cams I have here, all are rollers and will not work. So, I'll just drive on (with another lifter in the pocket) and keep my fingers crossed that I can make it through the inspection on 7 cylinders.


Should be finished buttoning it up by Wednesday. Then I'll start into the pile o' C4.
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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.

The Terrible One
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:11 am

Impounded by Colorado State Patrol on 22 April, 2016.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:36 am

akaFrankCastle wrote:Impounded by Colorado State Patrol on 22 April, 2016.


Damnit
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby mickphatmac » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:01 pm

I guess worse case scenario... you have this build thread you can show the Po Po and get your axles, wheels, tires, engine, seats, etc. back?

(make sure you bill them for your shop time!)
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby akaFrankCastle » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:24 pm

mickphatmac wrote:I guess worse case scenario... you have this build thread you can show the Po Po and get your axles, wheels, tires, engine, seats, etc. back?

(make sure you bill them for your shop time!)


There is no such thing as "my axles, wheels, tires" etc. when you are standing at a Colorado State Patrol station with a stolen vehicle in your possession.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby mickphatmac » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:42 pm

What time is your Bail Hearing?
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby Friday » Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:54 pm

akaFrankCastle wrote:Impounded by Colorado State Patrol on 22 April, 2016.

Dude, what happened? What's the story on this? I'm sorry this happened to you.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Thu May 05, 2016 12:19 pm

Update from Pueblo.

If the rightful owner of the Bronco does not claim it within 30 days, it will be transferred to the towing company for disposal/sale. If CSP values it at less than 350.00, it must be parted out or sold for scrap. If it values higher than 350.00, it can be sold and titled.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby Rox Crusher » Thu May 05, 2016 12:23 pm

So if it is valued less than 350, you can't get it titled again ?
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby akaFrankCastle » Thu May 05, 2016 12:39 pm

Rox Crusher wrote:So if it is valued less than 350, you can't get it titled again ?


That is correct. It either becomes Gillette Sensor razor blades or a pile of parts for people to buy and then crushed.
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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.

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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby Rox Crusher » Thu May 05, 2016 1:12 pm

Well, here's to hoping the value comes in at 351
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby pgilbeau » Thu May 05, 2016 1:58 pm

Rox Crusher wrote:Well, here's to hoping the value comes in at 351


I second that, would hate to see it go to the crusher.
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby EFI Guy » Wed May 11, 2016 12:03 am

Dude that sucks!

Having been a tow truck driver I can say that the CSP officer doing the evaluation will most likely accept input from the towing company (whether they want to resell or crush). And..as long as no one working at the towing company really wants it, they would most likely sell it to you if you express interest. Let them know you are interested in buying it back, but don't give them any idea of it's potential value. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for ya!
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby sykanr0ng » Wed May 11, 2016 7:52 pm

Having seen rusted busted Broncos with no title on CL for $700 and gone in less than two days I would say it's a sure bet on $351+
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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja "Saved from the grave"

Postby akaFrankCastle » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:58 am

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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.

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Re: 1973 Stroppe Baja

Postby Gunnibronco » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:04 pm

Man, that is awesome!
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