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colby45
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Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:32 am Posts: 233 Images: 2 Location: Englewood, CO
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Spindle Nut Torque
What's the best procedure for torquing the spindle nuts on a Dana 30? I've read in a few place to install the inner nut once the spindle and wheel bearing are on, torque it to 50 ft-lbs, then back it off 1/6 - 1/4 turn, install the lock washer, then install the outer nut and torque to 50 ft-lbs. Is this what you guys do? Thanks!
-Colby
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:39 am |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
Sounds right to me Never done a D30, but the process is the same for a D44.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:48 am |
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colby45
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:09 am |
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akaFrankCastle
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Spindle Nut Torque
That is the general idea. Torquing the inner lock nut puts the preload on the bearing and keeps the wheel happy. Torquing the outer lock nut keeps everything together and keeps you alive.
I'll pull out the '66 service manual when I get home and check the torque specs but those sound close.
Torquing the outer lock nut too much can lead to you shearing off that little nub on the inner lock nut. And this can lead to the washer locking itself to the spindle as time goes on. We've had a few people have to cut hubs off of spindles to get those things loose.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:32 am |
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Justin
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
Spin the hub as you're setting the torque on the inner lock nut. It helps make sure the bearings are seated fully and the grease is distributed well. You'll see the setting loosen up a little as you spin it.
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:54 am |
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colby45
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
Ah okay good tips. Thanks guys. I'll make sure I spin the hub while I torque the inner nut and I'll be very careful about torquing the outer so I don't end up with things jammed up in the future.
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:33 pm |
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hockeydad4-22
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
Torquing the outer lock nut too much can lead to you shearing off that little nub on the inner lock nut. And this can lead to the washer locking itself to the spindle as time goes on. We've had a few people have to cut hubs off of spindles to get those things loose.[/quote] I can neither confirm nor deny being part of one such operation in my garage..... Rumor has it - it is not a lot of fun...
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:03 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:45 pm |
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colby45
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
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landshark
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
I just did mine, I do the inner by feel as i spin the rotor - the outer I torque to 85 ft lbs.. seems to work well for me.
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:08 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
I do 50/80ish as well.
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:09 pm |
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colby45
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
Awesome. Thanks everyone for your input. I only got one side done tonight as I went slow to make sure I didn't overlook anything. Spindle nuts torqued to 50/80ish which seems to be just fine. Hub spins freely and the bearing seems to have seated (I also spun it while I torqued the inner nut). I'll finish the other side tomorrow. The only thing that kinda sucks is that I ordered replacement brake lines from the knuckle to the drum (I ended up cutting the others trying to take everything apart) from Jeff's Bronco Graveyard and they don't seem to fit so I'll need to figure that out.
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:25 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
What about them doesn't fit?
If the threads on the rubber hose don't match the steel line, simple adapters are available. Not all stores carry brake line adapters, but between my local Carquest & Napa, they usually have what I need.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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colby45
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
The bends in the line just aren't quite right so the fittings don't line up on both sides. I have tube bender so I'm just gonna tweak things a bit and see if I can't get it to line up.
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colby45
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
It seems they are just about a half inch off: Sorry for the poor picture quality. It's tough to get my phone back there. Bending to tweak them the right way isn't going to work I think. Can I replace those with some braided stainless steel line of some sort or something? I found a forum on CB.com with someone complaining of the same issue on a very early '66, which is what mine is: http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showth ... p?t=240185So maybe the brackets aren't the same on the early ones. Wouldn't be the first time I've run across one of these little idiosyncrasies with the very early 66's...
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:37 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
You are probably right about the early 66 stuff not matching.
I'd replace those rubber hoses too.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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colby45
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
Yeah those and all the other lines need to be replaced. I have half a mind to do the lines, and a disc brake conversion while it's all taken apart.
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Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:07 pm |
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phyler
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
Yep, that's how mine started. Decided to do the disc swap instead of just fixing the blown wheel bearing. It goes downhill from there, in a good way. :-)
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Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:42 pm |
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colby45
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
Yeah its that whole, "While I'm at it..." snowball effect. But it is always good. I started out replacing front axle u-joints and have already made it to disc brake conversion. Don't know how that happened!
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Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:12 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
The upgrade from drums to disks is time & money well spent. I'd seriously consider it. You know, while you are at it.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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colby45
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Re: Spindle Nut Torque
Yeah I agree. I'm trying to stay pretty close to stock, but I think an exception can be made for the disc conversion given it comes down to safety. Plus, looking at some of the kits, it doesn't look like it's too terribly involved to do.
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