advice on transfer case

Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:46 am

akaFrankCastle wrote:Just snatch the loop with some needle nose and give it a few good yanks.


OK thank you will mess with it more when I get home tonight.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby Moab Mike » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:28 pm

They actually make a cotter pin removal tool, it looks like a bent up awl.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby akaFrankCastle » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:08 pm

I, accidentally, have one of those. Used to be a flat tip screw driver.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:14 am

So I can't find a cotter pin.The only thing I see is a bolt.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby ZOSO » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:30 am

Thats a twin sticked j shift. How I did mine is unbolt the t case. Slowly pull the case back so it comes off the locating pin. Then let the tcase rotate a little. The shifter "pins" will come out of the rails. Make sure the spud shaft retainer comes with the t case or it wont work. Might use a jack to hold it. I just muscled mine.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:02 am

ZOSO wrote:Thats a twin sticked j shift. How I did mine is unbolt the t case. Slowly pull the case back so it comes off the locating pin. Then let the tcase rotate a little. The shifter "pins" will come out of the rails. Make sure the spud shaft retainer comes with the t case or it wont work. Might use a jack to hold it. I just muscled mine.



The spud shaft retainer ?
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby Gunnibronco » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:27 am

Are you just trying to get the shifter off?

You need to unbolt the shifter from the t-case. There are 2 bolts holding the shifter to the case. One goes through the case, & threads into the shifter. The other goes through the sifter & threads into the case. You can see them in your first 2 pics.

Or maybe you can take the torx head bolt out of the shifter & wiggle the shift handles off the base. I'm not sure how that one is built. I made my own from stuff we had around the shop & I've never seen another up close.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:07 pm

So what would be the best way to get a broken bolt out of the frame?
Only had one break on the cross member brackets that bolt to frame
The drill don't fit.Would like not to have to pull transmission.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:10 pm

Also waiting on results from what happened in the transfer case.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:21 pm

Any bolt still sticking out or broken flush with frame?
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:22 pm

It's in set in nothing to grab
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby Eck » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:23 pm

cravenbronco wrote:So what would be the best way to get a broken bolt out of the frame?
Only had one break on the cross member brackets that bolt to frame
The drill don't fit.Would like not to have to pull transmission.


If you have access to a welder, the next step would probably be to weld a nut to the bolt. The heat will help break it loose and then you can back it out with the nut.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:23 pm

cravenbronco wrote:It's in set in nothing to grab

Maybe a 1/8 in
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby Eck » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:33 pm

cravenbronco wrote:
cravenbronco wrote:It's in set in nothing to grab

Maybe a 1/8 in


Sorry-- must have been typing the welding thing at the same time. Not sure how to get that out other than drill and rescue screw-- no way to get even a right angle drill at it?
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:38 pm

I feel like I'm going to need a new tool
Right angle drill huh nice
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby Gunnibronco » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:58 pm

I have 2 bolts broken off in the frame (one on each side) so the crossmember is only bolted with 3 bolts on each side, instead of 4. Its been that way for 15 years. If you can't get it out, forget about it.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:53 am

Cool thanks everyone. I got the broken bolt out.
I also cleaned up the cross member.Sand blasted
and painted with Armor coat
Chip resistance paint awesome stuff
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby Eck » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:11 am

cravenbronco wrote:Cool thanks everyone. I got the broken bolt out.
I also cleaned up the cross member.Sand blasted
and painted with Armor coat
Chip resistance paint awesome stuff


So what was the verdict in getting the bolt out? Details man, details!!
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:59 am

Eck wrote:
cravenbronco wrote:Cool thanks everyone. I got the broken bolt out.
I also cleaned up the cross member.Sand blasted
and painted with Armor coat
Chip resistance paint awesome stuff


So what was the verdict in getting the bolt out? Details man, details!!



Sorry was excited... So I went to ace hardware and got a right angle drill
( a new tool ) yeah!! but I brought that home and took a small punch and hammer
so that would give me a starting point for the small drill bit. Once I drilled a hole in the center of the broken bolt I used a bigger bit. Then used a set of extractors that I had and the bolt pulled right out. Was rusted. Looked like original body mount bolts center was maybe 1/8 thick
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby Eck » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:05 am

Nice work! I have 2 broken bolts in my engine block that I am about to deal with this weekend. Hoping I have as much luck as you did!!
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby sykanr0ng » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:19 am

cravenbronco wrote:Cool thanks everyone. I got the broken bolt out.
I also cleaned up the cross member.Sand blasted
and painted with Armor coat
Chip resistance paint awesome stuff


Is that the Armor Coat that is like a clear coat on top of the paint, or is there another product? (That company's website is all bling and no substance / no info)
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:19 am

I got the extractors from sears lifetime warranty
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:28 am

sykanr0ng wrote:
cravenbronco wrote:Cool thanks everyone. I got the broken bolt out.
I also cleaned up the cross member.Sand blasted
and painted with Armor coat
Chip resistance paint awesome stuff


Is that the Armor Coat that is like a clear coat on top of the paint, or is there another product? (That company's website is all bling and no substance / no info)


It's a paint that I got from my local painter. Painters supply has it also.
It comes in a quart or gallon can.
They use it on the front of race cars
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:29 am

I can get a phone number for you also if needed
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:39 am

So if I was going to replace the 8 bolts for the cross member support brackets that are held to the frame what grade should I use?
Was thinking a grade 5
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby hockeydad4-22 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:44 am

cravenbronco wrote:So if I was going to replace the 8 bolts for the cross member support brackets that are held to the frame what grade should I use?
Was thinking a grade 5


Grade 5 is probably ok, However any bolt or nut I replace in the drivetrain, suspension or steering is always upgraded to grade 8 on our rigs. Not that much more money for the peace of mind.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby Justin » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:34 pm

x2. It's probably overkill for that application, but it seems like cheap insurance. I usually replace any critical fastener I remove that has been in service for more than a couple of years with new for the same reason.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby sykanr0ng » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:37 pm

The problem with Grade 8 bolts is that they are more likely to simply break where a Grade 5 bolt will stretch but still hold the parts.
You still end up needing to replace the bolt but you don't need to go back down the road or trail to pick up the pieces.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:13 am

Got the transfer case in and drive shaft's hooked up
Getting closer day by day.
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Re: advice on transfer case

Postby cravenbronco » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:24 am

Here are some pictures of transfer case before it was cleaned up and after it was finished
I couldn't put it on looking like that
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