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Justin
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Exhaust routing
As I'm getting closer to finishing up the suspension and steering, I'm planning the next step of my build-exhaust. I'm switching from a dual 2.25" to a single 3" on the passenger side with the rear outlet behind the wheel, possibly through the body. The main goal is to have it tucked up away from rocks. Anything I need to take into account? Any place that's better to run the crossover from the driver's side header to the 3" section? I am planning to run a single cat after the junction, and I'm not sure if running the crossover near the transfer case will get it hot enough to function properly. Maybe dual cats would be better? Anyway, any ideas would be appreciated.
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Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:23 pm |
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Dukietown
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Re: Exhaust routing
I would think you could do a cross-over y pipe with the cat right behind the collector. Something like Is there room to run the crossover between the trans and transfer?
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Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:37 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Exhaust routing
That's pretty much the setup I'm thinking of. I'm not sure about running it between the trans and transfer. I haven't gotten the front driveshaft in yet to check clearances with the high pinion diff. I'm assuming it won't make a huge difference at the t-case side, but....
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Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:39 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Exhaust routing
Mines got a y pipe like that that takes the 2.25" into 3" When I crawl under it next(tomorrow) I'll snap a pic.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:44 pm |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Re: Exhaust routing
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:27 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Exhaust routing
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:30 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Exhaust routing
Rob, any problems with clearance out on the rocks? I've smacked my t-case a couple of time, and yours looks like it hangs down lower.
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:25 pm |
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ZOSO
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Re: Exhaust routing
No issues yet. It doesn't hang much lower than the tcase. I haven't put the skid plate back on yet but i dont think it's even an inch lower than the skid plate.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:31 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: Exhaust routing
Mine drops down and crosses just behind the oil drain plug. It was the first thing my hp diff hit, before I moved the axle forward. The exhaust isn't installed now, so I don't know how it all fits together (or take better pics). I think I'll gain some extra clearance, how much remains to be seen. That said, the exhaust could be tucked up better in that spot, and was something I wasn't really happy about. It might get changed.
Here is the best pic I can find, from just after it was installed.
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_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:46 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Exhaust routing
Rob, thanks, that may be how I end up routing it. Chad, what headers are you running? I traded those axles I had for sale for a set of 3/4 length Hooker headers. They're a great compromise, but I'm not sure they're short enough to do it the way you've got yours set up.
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:49 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: Exhaust routing
Mine are the BC Broncos shorties. I thought exhaust was something best left to a shop. Then I saw the results of a self built exhaust from a mandrel bent kit, like this: http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/bu ... a7bc950d7aIt was on a Chevy hot rod truck. I'm sure its something you could pull off yourself, with the tools you have at your disposal. If I have to change mine (which is likely- I have no idea how it will fit with the ZF/Atlas, and I might want to change it for axle clearance) I'm hoping to just get some pieces & modify it to fit.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:04 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Exhaust routing
That's the plan-they carry b-stock, which is apparently pretty much perfect. I may still wind up going with the BC shorties. The more I look at it the more I want to go under the trans behind the bellhousing, but I'm not sure how much the heat will impact the trans. It's an NP435, so not as critical as an auto. The other thing I might try is going with dual cats right after the collector, then have the pipes meet up behind the transfer case. I've got a 2" body lift, so I should be able to go over the rear drive shaft. I think...
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:11 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Exhaust routing
If your worried about heat wrap the exhaust.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:55 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Exhaust routing
Thought about ceramic coating as well.
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:59 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: Exhaust routing
http://store.secondskinaudio.com/therma ... ps-2-pack/This stuff is pricey, but could be applied to the bottom of the floor, just where necessary.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:30 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Exhaust routing
See the last few pics on this page for how mine is done: http://s8.photobucket.com/user/jesus_ma ... t=2&page=2I don't recall all the thought that went into what I did, but I remember my options being very limited. I had to come off the driver side header, wrap nearly 180* towards the front, and route it under the oil pan and down the passenger side. But it's all tucked up above the bottom of the frame. I kinda wish I put a cat on it, but all I have is a moroso spiral flow muffler. It sounds great, maybe a little raspy on the higher RPM's for my taste, but I don't usually have it wrapped out. I believe I have factory Mustang Shorty headers. I do get too much heat transfer from the exhaust joint on the passenger side into my Ballistic joint causing it to squeak. There's no room for a shield in there, although I tried. I did end up wrapping the exhaust in that area. I think it helps slow the heat transfer down. A great source for wrap is: http://www.siliconeintakes.com/dsm-intercooler-piping/They are in the 'Springs and the cheapest I found. Maybe order up your CAT(s) too!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:27 am |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Exhaust routing
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:15 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Exhaust routing
Justin, I run a single CAT and really like it in terms of cleaning up the exhaust smell, etc.
Mine is kind of close to the floor board and gets pretty hot. So hot that I need to ad a shield to deflect some of the heat away from the floor board.
The 76/77 models came with one which bolted into the frame.
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:28 am |
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Justin
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Re: Exhaust routing
JD, your link is broken, would love to see your setup. Jeff, how is your crossover routed?
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:50 am |
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Jesus_man
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Re: Exhaust routing
Must have something to do with a link from my account to which I am signed in vs not. But here's the pics:
Drivers side:
Passenger side:
2 into 1 just beside the tranny:
Looking forward from the rear:
Certainly not the prettiest work, but it does what it needs to.
Don't forget I got a nice piece to finish the hole thru the body if you're so inclined.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:40 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: Exhaust routing
I'll get a couple pics for you on Thursday.
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:10 am |
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Justin
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Re: Exhaust routing
Cool, thanks!
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Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:21 am |
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Digger
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Re: Exhaust routing
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
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