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75DBE
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Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:37 am Posts: 319 Location: Colorado Springs
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Saginaw Steering Pump
The bracket on my OE steering pump on my 75DBE is broken so I have the whole thing off. I was ordering a new bracket from WH but then I started thinking that with the larger tires that I have and the lift, I should -- if possible -- change out the OE steering pump with a Saginaw steering pump. So my question is -- anyone have one lying around that they would not mind parting with relatively cheap? Let me know!
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:42 am |
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akaFrankCastle
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:25 pm Posts: 4901 Images: 0 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:07 pm |
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75DBE
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
HAH! Well, if I can get a Saginaw pump and bracket together cheap, that would be awesome. If someone has the pump, I'd be looking to purchase a WH bracket to go with it. :-)
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:01 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:25 pm Posts: 4901 Images: 0 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:11 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
If you can't find one from a member, any parts store will have one for $50-70. They're something like $25 at most junkyards.
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Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:58 pm |
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75DBE
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Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:37 am Posts: 319 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
So is a "canned ham" Saginaw steering pump a "canned ham" Saginaw steering pump? So if I see one I can't confuse it with any other type of steering pump?
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:16 pm |
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75DBE
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
So Zack has convinced me to just put a brand new Delphi / Saginaw "canned ham" style power steering pump in the Bronco, but as that was not originally on the vehicle, I don't have a part number and there are MANY Delphi / Saginaw power steering pumps available for the Ford. HELP!
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:29 am |
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75DBE
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
So the Heavy Duty Delphi Pump Kit - Bronco/Saginaw box sold by WH for this Bronco was never stock equipment on the Bronco, though it seems like that is what I should get. I work at a part store now -- so if I could figure out the part number, I would probably be able to get it at a decent discount! Again, help!
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:38 am |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showth ... ginaw+pumpgood info I hope, let us know what you find, especially for the dual return pump.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:44 am |
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75DBE
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
Ok, I found that pump at Autozone (where I work now part time). But the pump that WH sells is not a dual return Delphi / Saginaw. What it the purpose / value of the dual return?
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_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:54 am |
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75DBE
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
Pump will be about $40, though I am not sure it is the same quality as the WH version. Why would they be charging $200 for the same pump?
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:00 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
The dual return provides you an easy option for running Hydroboost power brake systems. It is not necessary for running hydroboost, as the return line can be "T'd", however it does tend to make it a more aesthetically pleasing install. For you, I would pick up the single return pump.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:04 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:25 pm Posts: 4901 Images: 0 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:06 pm |
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75DBE
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Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:37 am Posts: 319 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
So it is just a matter of new vs rebuilt? Ok, got that. But I am not understanding the dual vs single return issue.
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:12 pm |
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75DBE
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
Never mind -- I didn't see both of your posts!
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:12 pm |
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75DBE
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
Ok, picked up my new Saginaw / Delphi power steering pump on Saturday! Really excited to get it in and hooked up! Now if I can just figure out how that new line is going to work! Hmmm...
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:51 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
You guys have a big cabinet full of fittings and adapters at AZ, don'tcha?
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:57 pm |
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75DBE
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
Probably! But I have just not found them yet! I'll have to get you over there one evening and you can show me what I need!
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:59 pm |
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RJLougee
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
The mid-70s Scout II used a Saginaw PS pump and Saginaw PS box that has the same fittings as the EB box. So..., you should be able to order the $15 Scout II PS pressure hose and have it plug right in, no adapters needed. HTH, Joe
_________________ '70 Bronco, MAF 5.0, NP435, D44/9", 4.10s, 33" MT/Rs, PS/PB '71 Bronco, HP D60, Hi-9, 5.38/ARBs, 101" WB, 408 Stroker, AOD, Atlas, 40" MT/Rs, PiMP EFI. '78 F150 SWB/Stepside/4WD, 351W/4R100/NP205, 35" KM2s, under const... '81 Coachman Caper XL MH, 4WD, EFI 460/ZF/BW1356, D44/Sterling, 4.10s/35s, under const... '83 Bronco, D60/Sterling, 5.13/ARBs, MAF EFI 351W/ZF/BW1356, 37" MT/Rs. '12 Buggy, HPD60, Hi-9, 4.10s, Explorer 5.0, Atlas 4-speed, my chassis, EB skins. And the latest project is a '99 Ranger Extra-Cab, custom frame/tube work, on 40s...
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:06 am |
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75DBE
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump
Ah, that is great information. I think I will be getting this whole PS pump / connections / etc. in tomorrow night -- with a little help from some friends! I will see if I can get one of the Scout pressure hoses at work today. Thanks for the pointer -- much appreciated!
_________________ Now with disk brakes, has turned into my sons daily driver while he is home on Christmas break.
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:26 am |
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