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Eck
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Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
I am going to start ordering parts and start working on the rebuild of my 9". Thought it might be easier to start a separate topic and thread to post the progress. I am starting with a 66-75 Big Bearing housing with 11" Brakes.
Here is my shopping list and I do have a couple of questions:
BOUGHT already - Wild Horses 31 spine axles (part number 8602) Yukon Ring and Pinion 4.56 gears (part number YG F9-456) ARB RD119 differential (4.56/ 31 spline)
MASTER Install kit: Question- There are two different ones available. One for 3.06in. Bore Case and one for 2.96in. Bore Case. How do I know which one to purchase?
ARB twin compressor (part CKMTA12)
Brake rebuild: Drum Hardware Kit (Oreillys part H7144) Brake Shoes (Oreillys part BB 283) Brake Drums (Oreillys part 2611D6S)
Anything that I am missing or need to consider?
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:55 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
Might be a good time to also replace your e-brake cables if they're non-functional. Not hard to do later, but as long as you've got it apart....
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:28 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:41 pm |
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ZOSO
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
Add a shim-able crush sleeve to the list. That way you never have to worry about the thing collapsing on you under high torque loads.
Only way to tell the bore case size is to pull out 3rd member and measure the carrier bearing bore.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Digger
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
Do you guys have a link to one so I have an idea what it is? The install kit I was looking at getting is: http://www.4wheelparts.com/Drivetrain-D ... G/235-2011They have the same one for the smaller bore once I figure out which one I have...
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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ZOSO
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:49 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:51 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:54 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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sykanr0ng
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ "You say overkill like it's a bad thing."
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:59 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
Is there a way to measure the size suspension lift I have? I just want to double check before I start ordering replacement parts.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:28 pm |
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phyler
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
Measure between the frame and the axle. Stock was 7" upfront and 8" in the rear.
_________________ 1975 Ranger Edition that I've had longer than I've been without it.
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:36 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
Both front and rear measure out at 9". The rear leafs are 8 leaf and I don't see any blocks or anything. Does this mean I have a 2" suspension lift up front and 1" added with an add a leaf in the rear?
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:58 pm |
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phyler
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
Most likely. I would guess there is the possibility that the front was 2.5 at some point.
_________________ 1975 Ranger Edition that I've had longer than I've been without it.
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:53 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:57 pm |
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phyler
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
I would check brake lines (from the frame to the axle and emergency cables). Those are usually the main issues.
I found when I did my 2.5" lift that everything stayed pretty level. Granted, I have K-Bar-S front springs that haven't sagged at all. :) I think if you go with the 3.5" up front, you will find that the front will be slightly higher. Even after it settles, I don't know if you will be level. Hopefully someone else can chime in on that. I doubt you will see .5" of sag (assuming you have enough weight to sag it .5" to begin with, though I'm not sure you do). I think if you match the front and rear, you might end up with .25" rake but that would be hardly noticeable.
I've got my eyes set on the WH suspension with Bilstien shocks to replace mine, but that's after the engine swap and the body panel replacement projects. :)
_________________ 1975 Ranger Edition that I've had longer than I've been without it.
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sykanr0ng
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ "You say overkill like it's a bad thing."
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Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:56 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
Yah, have a heavy Warn Belleview with a pretty stout homemade prerunner style front bumper.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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sykanr0ng
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Re: Eck's Ford 9
_________________ "You say overkill like it's a bad thing."
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Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:06 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
I am looking to place my order for the Ring and Pinion and want to make sure I get the correct one.
Going with ARB 31 spline 4.56 gears.
I was looking at Yukon YG F9-456 ($250) on Summit Racing. Is this the correct ring and pinion?
Does anyone have any comments or suggestions on a brand or something that may work just as well at a better price?
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_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:27 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Digger
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
. $238 and free shipping with PRIME
And yes, that is the right gears.
Don't forget to buy an install kit with the gears.
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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TOOLMAN
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
I'm planning on rebuilding the chunk while I install an ARB with 31 spline axles. So, which size carrier bearings am I looking for 2.9, 3.0, or 3.25? I would assume it's the smallest, but wasn't sure if that changes due to the switch from 28 to 31 spline axles.
_________________ Wilma - 71 1/2 Wagon; 3 1/2" WH lift, 1" BL, NP435, Chebby disc front, WH twin stick D20, EFI 302, Cool hood scoop, mucho cancer; purchased in 1990.
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:36 am |
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Justin
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
The outer diameter of the bearing stays the same, so it'll be whatever your stock one is. If it's early bronco, it's likely the smaller ones.
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Kinder
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Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
31 spline axles won't fit the smaller bearing carrier, do some measuring and make sure you have the med or larger bearing sized carrier.
Edit: Justin, not certain, but I think they do change outer & inner. I say this because I couldn't stuff 31 spline axles into my stock 28 spline carrier when I upgraded my axles years ago. Might be a year thing, my '73 had the stock rear housing, axles & carrier in it.
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:23 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
No, I think you're right. I'm used to carriers for 31 or 35 spline stuff.
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:32 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
No, I think you're right. I'm used to carriers for 31 or 35 spline stuff.
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:32 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
Kirk- WH sells a tapered 31 spline for use in the small bearing housing. I believe that's what he is using. http://www.wildhorses4x4.com/product/Ex ... _10in_DrumJason- I believe it's based on the third member. Aftermarket heavy duty third members increased the size of the carrier bearings. I measured the one that came out of the big bearing housing in rebuilding and it was the smallest one 2.89 I think.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Eck
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Re: Eck's Ford 9" rebuild
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