Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Kinder » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:08 am

I'm going to pick up a handheld unit. I was very disappointed by the radio setup we used this last hunting season. Looking for someone to talk to (in person and over the air) so I can get some pointers. I'm already studying for the technician license and I'll get that knocked out ASAP.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby akaFrankCastle » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:15 am

I can put you in touch with some ham nerds from work if you like. Two technicians, one studying for general.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby bsaunder » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:20 am

I have my tech license, but haven't been active for 6+yrs. For a handheld, Yaseu makes a couple great ones that are compact and water resistant yet still pack a decent punch as far as wattage. You can also use a Yaseu mobile in your vehicle to connect the two and setup your own quasi repeater network - that is handy if you are in canyons etc and can't reach a repeater with your hand held, but you can reach your vehicle and it can reach the repeaters.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby bsaunder » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:22 am

There used to be a fairly active Boulder HAM club that would be a great source of info.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Jesus_man » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:36 am

I also know a few folks from the 4x4 club I used to run with in Denver. In fact, I think one of them is an instructor. Let me know if you want contact info.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Kinder » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:24 am

Thanks for the replies & recommendations, I'd appreciate contact info.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby ManTruck » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:39 am

N0KHC here, have been for 25 years or so. Tech Plus.

I will be willing to help or recommend. I was very active when I still had my Dad but backed off after he passed away. He was very active and I pursued it to stay in touch with him.

2 Meters is great but the thing you run into is there are few others around that have the rigs, so I always have had a few laying around for that reason. Let me know if you have any questions or if I can help. I prefer ICOM but have some Radio Shack 440 hand held as well. I don't think Radio Shack carries anymore but they work well.

I have a 65 watt amplifier I have used mobile before, and of course a great antenna mounted instead of the rubber duck is really a great way to get your signal strength up.

For every 3db of gain it doubles your signal. So when looking at antenna etc just think about that when you are trying to get set up. 5 watt handhelds are great but need to have good batteries and antenna to keep that signal up. The battery packs are lacking and if you can get a good lead for the handheld to feed from you 12v DC source you will be better off.
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Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Kinder » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:54 am

Thanks, I'm reading as much as possible and have read the antenna & cable are just as important as the radio. Plan is to get a couple of hand held units to start and then a vehicle mounted.

I'll get a 12v power source for the hand held radios, thanks for the tip.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Digger » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:07 am

Had my Tech for almost 7 years now. I got started on Yaesu radios because of certain features and style, and have stuck with them.

Currently I own three:

FT-8800R was my first unit. It was purchased for its dual band and cross-band repeater capabilities.

VX-6R was my second unit. Portable, dual-band, feature rich and best of all, waterproof

FTM-350R, because I got into APRS (triple-band, are you sensing a theme here?)
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There are many options out there depending on what you need to do. I needed a better solution than CB or FRS for wheeling. That morphed into needing a portable for snowmobiling with my friends. The snowmobiling led to APRS for tracking group members instead of just voice communications. The FT-8800 is nice for working a remote area, I can park the truck on a high spot and use it as a make-shift repeater for the hand talkies.

I've even mated a single board computer to a radio modem kit running tracking software.
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I probably dork-out in the most on the APRS stuff, but the improved range and quality of the voice communications alone is a reason to switch.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Kinder » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:54 pm

Digger wrote:Had my Tech for almost 7 years now. I got started on Yaesu radios because of certain features and style, and have stuck with them.

Currently I own three:

FT-8800R was my first unit. It was purchased for its dual band and cross-band repeater capabilities.

VX-6R was my second unit. Portable, dual-band, feature rich and best of all, waterproof

FTM-350R, because I got into APRS (triple-band, are you sensing a theme here?)

There are many options out there depending on what you need to do. I needed a better solution than CB or FRS for wheeling. That morphed into needing a portable for snowmobiling with my friends. The snowmobiling led to APRS for tracking group members instead of just voice communications. The FT-8800 is nice for working a remote area, I can park the truck on a high spot and use it as a make-shift repeater for the hand talkies.

I probably dork-out in the most on the APRS stuff, but the improved range and quality of the voice communications alone is a reason to switch.



Now that's my kind of setup, I'll need to dig into the APRS and tri band (or quad band), I'd love to couple this with digital mapping and locating. Even more cool if this could be mobile, maybe a tablet?

The Expo crowd seems to be all about the 2m setup and using tablets for mapping, but I don't think I've seen anything combining them.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Digger » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:54 pm

kinder wrote:Now that's my kind of setup, I'll need to dig into the APRS and tri band (or quad band), I'd love to couple this with digital mapping and locating. Even more cool if this could be mobile, maybe a tablet?

The Expo crowd seems to be all about the 2m setup and using tablets for mapping, but I don't think I've seen anything combining them.



True, the Expo crowd doesn't really mix the two. Google Xastir, that is the program I'm using. It requires a Linux machine and a little digging on the user's part to get some good maps, but it is extremely versatile and powerful. I'm running one implementation on a RaspberryPi and another on an old laptop for experimenting with different maps. The RPI in the picture has a TNC-Pi (http://www.tnc-x.com/TNCPi.htm) piggy-backed on it to interface with the radio. You can use just about any radio with that setup.

Real programming skills are not required and only basic soldering skill to assemble the TNC.

One of the great things about APRS is that you are not limited to a single frequency or even band. Most people operate on agreed-upon frequencies, but if you and your buddies were only concerned about your own traffic, you could move freq. and be free of the normal traffic.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby ZOSO » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:31 pm

KB0KPN here. Booger is N0GPW. I have a 2m mounted in my bronco but never turn it on as no one ever uses it.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Kinder » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:19 pm

Maybe we'll start a trend.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Justin » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:25 pm

I've thought about it for years. Haven't made the leap as I didn't have anyone I actually wanted to talk to. If we wind up with a bunch of HAM operators I'd probably jump on board.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Kinder » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:42 am

Looks like we are up to 5 tech license holders just in this thread, I bet there are a few more in the background. As soon as I get up and running I'll do a bit of research on local groups and freqs, we can either join into an established setup or setup our own if there is enough interest.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Digger » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:18 am

There are plenty of established groups out there. Here is a list of local clubs.
http://w0lta.net/a_list_of_ham_radio_clubs_in_the.htm

You will run into many people that are into HAM for different reasons. Many older guys I've met like the social aspects, others like the technical merits, others still are in it for practical reasons like Search & Rescue or like us, just need a better form of comms for club related activities. I tend to fall into the last two groups. I got started out of a need for something better than CB, but soon realized the greater potential of HAM in general. (I say greater, because it is difficult to fully realize what can be done, given HAM radio's constantly evolving nature)

Here is list of state repeaters:
http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Amateur_Radio_Repeaters_in_Colorado

Colorado is a great place for HAM guys. We have lots of high peaks to place repeaters on that allow signals to propagate for 100s of miles. It makes 2m and 70cm very effective in this area. There is even a state-wide repeater network that is radio-linked and doesn't rely on any outside infrastructure. You can key-up in Denver and talk to someone in Durango, Grand Junction, and Walden all at the same time!


Getting your ticket is fairly simple, especially if you have a basic understanding of electrical and radio principals. I'm willing to help anyone out that needs it and my tech license manual is available to borrow.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby landshark » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:34 am

I'm interested in this as well. Have always thought about the benefits but like others didn't know anyone else to make it worth while.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Justin » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:32 am

I've thought seriously about it in part because of the repeater network. I like the idea of being able to call for help with more than a CB if I get in trouble while out in the boonies alone.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Unaweep » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:29 pm

I use to be on the radio a long long time ago for my job.

Used HF, UHF voice. HF, UHF satellite. HF, VLF, ELF receive and lot's of other goodies, it was a fun job.

Certified 21wpm on morse code, I've heard the code has went away as a requirement for ham radio now? Is that true?


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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Kinder » Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:14 pm

Yes, no code for tech license, haven't checked higher levels.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Booger » Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:49 pm

Unaweep wrote:I use to be on the radio a long long time ago for my job.

Used HF, UHF voice. HF, UHF satellite. HF, VLF, ELF receive and lot's of other goodies, it was a fun job.

Certified 21wpm on morse code, I've heard the code has went away as a requirement for ham radio now? Is that true?


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They have a 5 wpm requirement for General class and up ( I believe that's still the requirement). I've got my General license. Haven't been active in several years and need to get back into it a little. Unfortunately cell phones and messaging have made ham radio take a back seat. That is until they have a disaster such as last years floods to show the value of ham radio.

I used to talk to a truck driver buddy on 2M all the time while he was driving down through the San Luis valley. That was before IRLP (Internet Radio Linking Project) and other linking of repeaters. I'd talk through the Buena Vista repeater and most of the guys here and down there couldn't believe I was only running 25 watts most of the time. All while using an 11 element beam about 6 feet above my mobile home. Sometimes I could talk to him on my vertical antenna but conditions had to be just right.

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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby ClayJ » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:02 pm

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I've been a tech for several years. I have a Yaesu VX-7R handheld and a 2M/7M Jpole antenna in my attic.

I participate in an Emergency Radio Club 2 times a month to keep my meager skills up.

I took my radio with me a month ago when I was out camping by Taylor park, but I forgot my repeater catalog and couldn't find a repeater. So just having a radio doesn't help much. there are SOOOO many frequencies and options that you've got to have a catalog to find anything. At least I do.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby bsaunder » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:24 am

Good idea o having a book around, or at least notes - I have most of the repeaters programed in and labeled; if I lost the memory I might be a bit lost too...
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Kinder » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:05 pm

I'm looking forward to learning how to program my radio, but I'll definitely carry a little book of local freqs for repeaters.
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Re: Any 2M / HAM folks out there?

Postby Gregg » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:50 pm

Maybe if you all log on (or whatever you call it) together at the same you could sing Happy Birthday? Happy Birthday Kirk.
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